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11/14/2025 3:41 pm  #1


Whoa! Required reading!

There was a Carolyn Hax article today that dealt with blended families that was quite good. But even better was a link to an article in Psychology Today about the necessity of cutting off your ex if you really want to move forward.

My late DH and I had been married in the same year and split up in the same year. I was over my ex. He couldn’t even irritate me anymore as much as he tried except if it was related to our kids and even then it was like an eye role. I refused to respond to his incessant emails unless absolutely necessary, didn’t take his calls, kept him at arms length when we absolutely had to share a space, etc. This was prior to text messages, thank god.

But it was different for my DH. His ex called lots, asked for his help with house stuff, asked for extra $$$ for the son who was still at home. Blah blah blah. Like many other idiot divorced men who were in relationships with someone new, he was taken aback when I pushed back on their lack of boundaries. He honestly expected me to just accept it because he saw it as normal.

Lots of tears and split ups where I felt like it was all my fault, that I should be able to handle her control of my life, that I was behaving childishly out of jealousy. I really didn’t like myself very much. We eventually worked through it and she was removed from her pedestal and out of my life because I finally delivered the ultimatum to beat all ultimatums - and he knew I meant it.

I wish I could have him read it now because it says everything I knew to be true. Since I can’t, I’m sharing it here:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-angry-therapist/202503/how-to-set-healthy-boundaries-with-your-ex

Last edited by dollbabies (11/14/2025 3:43 pm)

 

11/15/2025 8:10 am  #2


Re: Whoa! Required reading!

Great post!  I think most divorced men behave this way and actually think they will be able to please the ex, the skids and lastly,(of course) SM.

There was an old but great essay on disengagement that I am unable to find but states that the SM has her hand forced into it when biodad makes it perfectly clear he has no boundaries with the failed 1st family.  He will not parent nor discipline.  He is at the beck and call of the BM.

 

11/16/2025 5:39 pm  #3


Re: Whoa! Required reading!

I wish the article were required reading after all break-ups! I’ve been no contact with my ex for almost 2 weeks now, after a disastrous last attempt to work things out (I’ll post an update blog soon.) It gets easier every day. We don’t have any kids together so that makes it easy. Most (but not all) of our problems involved his lack of appropriate boundaries with just about everyone in his life. What’s weird is that one thing i realize is that the feeling of “instant closeness” that i felt with him in the beginning was probably due to his lack of boundaries. With me. And i should have run far and fast when i saw the enmeshment he had with BM2. Live and learn.

 

11/16/2025 6:25 pm  #4


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What’s weird is that one thing i realize is that the feeling of “instant closeness” that i felt with him in the beginning was probably due to his lack of boundaries. With me. And i should have run far and fast when i saw the enmeshment he had with BM2. Live and learn.

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Oh, god. The “instant closeness” thing. I never make that connection before… I just thought we were soul mates…

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11/17/2025 8:20 am  #5


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So,   for childless couples that uncouple.. this all makes great sense.. however, it's much more complicated in situations where you still share minor children (even adult children) with an EX.

Sure, some applies.. you don't keep in contact socially.. you don't follow their social media etc.. you know your triggers when you feel nostalgic about the relationship.  But the issues in steplife actually don't have that much in common with the underlying premise of this article.. which is you broke up and are having a hard time getting over your EX.. 

Because communication is necessary when you share kids.. there will be coordination.. accommodation.. compromise with an ex when you share kids.. No, that doesn't necessarily mean you are at their beck and call.. nor do you have to accommodate every new request for money.. time.. etc.. but there is no denying there will be some amount of need for the above.. from both sides.

What people in steplife need to do is get to a point where communication is civil.. but only surrounding children issues.
Where people need to be accommodating.. is only to the extent the other person is also being accommodating.. and that if they are in a relationship.. they owe their current partner the grace of being considered in the plans/issues.. when they will impact that new partner.

I kind of liken this to there being a difference between quitting cigarettes.. and sticking to a diet plan.  You quit smoking.. you can avoid that ... you don;t need to smoke to survive... but food?  you have to eat to survive.. so you are forced to face every day.. every hour the choice to eat well.. or to not eat well.. it's not that we can just "not eat"... forever.. and be done with the struggle...  The article is written for the cigarette smoker.. because you can excise an ex from your life when there are no other ties.. but when you have kids.. it's the diet situation.. you are forced to keep some contact with the ex.. which makes it a constant battle in many cases to maintain those boundaries.

 

11/17/2025 11:55 am  #6


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@esmod -

I think we all understand that a divorce vs a divorce with kids requires some continued communication with the ex. That goes without saying.

However, what the article addresses is how to avoid an enmeshed relationship with your ex. And it is those enmeshed relationships that cause so much havoc in future relationships which also impacts the kids. None of the advice would preclude divorced parents from carrying out their parental duties.

Having a civil, respectful co-parenting relationship does not require - or, in actuality - include enmeshment with an ex.

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11/17/2025 12:09 pm  #7


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dollbabies wrote:

Having a civil, respectful co-parenting relationship does not require - or, in actuality - include enmeshment with an ex.

So true, dollbabies. Sadly, there are the exes who refuse to let go. They don't want their exes, but don't want anyone else to have them either. Civility and respect are all too often ignored. 

 

11/17/2025 12:51 pm  #8


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As far as boundaries when kids are involved being like a diet, it makes sense. If we eat healthy, we feel better and have fewer health problems. But we still have to eat so it’s a daily struggle. If some of these parents’ coparenting relationships were like diets, they would be on “My 600-lb life!” Reasonableness vs excess is hard for some people. It’s even harder when kids are involved. With my ex SO’s case, anything could be done in the name of “the kids!” But i realized that most of the BS i had a problem with wasn’t helping the kids at all, but was feeding unhealthy needs in the parents. But God forbid you try to get them to change. I’m sure my ex is telling everyone i left him because i couldn’t stand him caring for his daughter. Who is pushing middle age with no job, no education, but finding time to party on Bourbon Street till 3 a.m. most nights. Reasonable? Not even close.

Last edited by Rumplestiltskin (11/17/2025 1:00 pm)

 

11/17/2025 2:50 pm  #9


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I, too, really like this article. At first, I was thinking, "Hey! My ex and I always did better as friends than as a couple, so what do you  mean avoid?" So, I really liked This isn’t about avoiding your ex for life—it’s about getting your head right before you even think about re-engaging. I would add that you need to give the other person the room and space to move on with someone else and not be that hovering ghost hanging around.  I thought my and my ex's avoidance of one another might be for life, which was at the time ok . . . but by the time we did re-engage, we were in such different spaces that it (a friendly but not close relationship) all worked out.  



 


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11/17/2025 3:01 pm  #10


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MorningMia wrote:

I would add that you need to give the other person the room and space to move on with someone else and not be that hovering ghost hanging around.
 

Good point. I thought an exgf could hang out as friends - we stopped dating because there wasn't any spark. That's what I thought. Until the 4-5 time we're out and I caught her telling a lady to back off that I was hers. Whaaaat?? There was spark on her side and she figured us hanging out would generate spark for me. 

 

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