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You all recall my SD64 who was renting out the condo we bought for "poor, sick, unlucky" SD to live in. We learned about that right before Christmas but it's only going on the market next week. There was the lengthy eviction of other tenants, many repairs, cleaning, repainting, packing, mover, etc. My BD and SIL have either supervised or done all the work.
SD64 is staying with her daughter, C, in C's Section 8 apartment. She has applied for her own place there but the waiting list is long. SS58, an out-of-state realtor is handling the sale and n conjunction with his old GF who is a local realtor. He's had the frank conversations with SD and C, like "get a post office box or JRI will have mail stopped" and "get a storage place", altho he ended up paying the first two months of a small unit himself.
In the meantime, SD's focus is on her precious stuff. When BD had to pack for removal, she "curated" SD's stuff. For instance, the George Foreman grill didn't go, BD said SD will never again be be able to live the kind of life where she'd use it. SD and C had 3 months access to the condo before the locks were changed but little or nothing went.
I stopped taking SD's calls and don't respond to her texts. C is cleaning for me weekly but BD is strongly urging me to cut contact with both SD and C for my safety. I've begun spacing out C's visits tho she's not the thief or liar SD is. I need to retain contact til the condo sells with the last issue being, is SD renting a big enough storage unit for her furniture or will I call 1800gotjunk.
It's been peaceful not seeing her or talking to her tho I let her come with C one day so she could see DH88 after he got out of the hospital recently after a fall and pneumonia. C said she'd be sure SD would not start one of her crying and begging jags with him and apparently, she didn't tho I think he gave her some cash as he always does. It still feels like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. I think nowadays, they are hitting up OSS who said he's recently given them $ and paid for car repairs.
Stay tuned, it never ends.
Last edited by JRI (5/09/2026 12:25 pm)
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JRI, it's nice to read that the drama is slowly winding down. I hope your DH is recovering well. XX
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I was delighted to read that you ignore SD's calls and texts. I hope your DH continues to make a good recovery.
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Well, I hope things quiet down as you all suggest but I know SD64, she has several bombs awaiting her. She might get thrown out of C's Section 8 place since she's there illegally and the waiting list for another place is long. Then there are the two warrants out for her, both traffic related but her car registration is over due, requires payment of personal property taxes and I don't think she's maintained her insurance. There are her. Numerous health conditions which she doesn't follow up on. It goes on and on. She will need to go and rent a storage unit and will probably have to move stuff out of the small one once SS58 stops paying. C is getting sick of her, I heard the police were called over one incident. Her other 2 kids are no contact. You name it, she's messed up in that respect.
BD says if SD shows up at the condo while they're working, she will call the police but hates to do so cuz with her warrants they'd probably take her and DH and I would end up having to bailing her out. They've got a Ring installed for any possible trespassers, like C's ex, one of the tenants who was a problem to evict. SD and C would let him back in, if they had access. He's got several warrants out, too
See what I mean about the other shoe?
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Real sorry you're dealing with all of that JRI. Sure sounds like she's hellbent on jail. ![]()
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Jail would not be anything new. We've already bailed her out twice over the past 8 years. It's never her fault, of course, all are sad .misunderstandings. Cough cough.
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What a cluster! "The legend" <-- good one.
These types sniff out enablers and suck them dry. Yes, when the condo sells, batten down the hatches. She will, as she is already, widening her circle of "helpers."
Hope your DH is doing much better. "Normal" (s)kids would be offering you all help, not trying to continuously "depend on" what you can do for them. Disgusting. How were the skids as they were growing up? How was this situation created?
Last edited by MorningMia (5/10/2026 6:40 am)
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The Legend of the Eternal S..show that is SD just lives on, unfortunately for you, and I am also have been very sorry that you still have to go through this ..over a 64 year old. I am glad that to hear that you are setting boundaries and refusing to not get int the middle of her never ending problems to "solve" I commend you for letting her to clean up her own mess, or not, send her the message that the gravy train need to be over for your part
I have had to same choice with SD31 and her just as toxic "Mother" as well as all their never ending drama long ago even just for my mental health. Not my circus and its not yours either! I would ask how SD got to this point, but see some of the same patterns already present in my own difficult SD who is on track to end up like yours in another 30 years, so the writing was on the wall based on my observations and own experience in my dealings. I see a similar pattern in that SD;s never had to be held accountable as they could always count on someone bailing them out and enabling for so long no matter what situations they get themselves into, because they could count on someone feeling sorry for them enough to try to save them from themselves. Hence why they are where they are now.
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You asked how and why The Legend SD64 got to this point. I had typed out a long story explanation before I accidentally deleted it. But it boils down to several things: DH's guilt about his divorce, seeing SD as the greatest victim, her tendency to exploit his guilt, his and my naivety and desire to be her saviors against mean ole BM, his feeling of helplessness as she aged into a divorcee with no resources and our inability and unwillingness to facer the degree of her lying, deception, drug use and theft. We aren't the sharpest tools in the woodshed.
Last edited by JRI (5/10/2026 6:24 pm)
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JRI, the percentage of un-sharp tools must be the majority. Do any of us expect it to be so bad?
We certainly wouldn't be here. ![]()
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JRI wrote:
You asked how and why The Legend SD64 got to this point. I had typed out a long story explanation before I accidentally deleted it. But it boils down to several things: DH's guilt about his divorce, seeing SD as the greatest victim, her tendency to exploit his guilt, his and my naivety and desire to be her saviors against mean ole BM, his feeling of helplessness as she aged into a divorcee with no resources and our inability and unwillingness to facer the degree of her lying, deception, drug use and theft. We aren't the sharpest tools in the woodshed.
DH guilt about divorce (fed by BM and skids) -- DH -- check
Seeing SD as the greatest victim -- check (both of us)
Her tendency to exploit his guilt -- check
Naivete and desire to save -- check (both of us)
Denial -- check (DH, not me)
JRI, We all ain't the sharpest tools in the shed, but what that means is we tend to be kind people who want to help, and we don't expect the worst in people, although we are often accused of doing just that.
Sorry that this neanderthal has taken advantage of your kindness. And I am insulting neanderthals here.
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My chest always tightens when I read your posts about your SD. Same age as me. The behaviors are outrageous. I'm glad an ending seems close. I love the you do not respond to her texts and calls anymore. That is not mean...that is taking care of yourself.
Best to you, JRI. And a big hug sent your way.
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If SD is resourceful enough to sublet *your* condo, hide it from you, and pocket the money, she’s not nearly as helpless as people make her out to be. Something tells me she will be just fine. It’s you and your DH i worry about. Take care of yourself!
Last edited by Rumplestiltskin (5/13/2026 10:55 am)
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Yes, she is much more sly and crafty than her "poor me" act. She is a master of manipulation. I'm glad I jumped off the crazy train. My only concern is protecting DH88. He is still susceptible, will probably always be, to her "distress". Yesterday, her daughter, C, was here cleaning during which SD always calls on C's (since he's not really able to answer his phone and I won't). I only heard her last words, "whatever you can" after I think he asked "how much". It's still a bummer but it's better than her being here in person weekly cleaning and making her begging, whining calls on other days. Sigh ...
On a positive note, C is now working as a Walmart shopper and delivery person. Prior to this, the two of them were living in C's Section 8 apartment on SD's disability and the $100 I pay C to clean plus whatever else they can scrounge out of others. C doing this let's her set her hours and it pays daily. DH said it wasn't much of a job but I said it's a JOB, better than none. C seems enthusiastic, a good sign.
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Excellent! As a landlady myself, I know how hard it is to get the place ready for sale or the next renter. The list is ENDLESS! Good for you to block her drama filled silly calls.
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Thinktwice, I don't know how you stand it. I definitely don't have it in me to be a landlord. There's been so, so much to do to get the condo ready to sell after a bad tenant. I thought about you during it all. Thankfully, my BD and SIL did all the work, I just kept paying. But I think you're .much more involved than I am. I take my hat off to you.