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4/17/2026 11:51 am  #1


Could she be any more passive aggressive?

I have mentioned before that SD and DH are estranged. That sets the stage here. Apologies for a complicated topic.

DH’s sister (SD’s Aunt) put her assets into a trust before she passed. She was not wealthy but wanted to pass along some family assets to DH and another brother, and their adult children. She made SD and and another niece co-Trustees. This was spectacularly stupid as the two girls don’t get along. DH tried to talk her out of it, but Auntie wouldn’t have it.

After Auntie passed, there was lots of drama settling the estate and trust. SD was always involved in whatever hassle there was because she was always right about everything. (She has no legal or financial training.)

Turns out there was provision for that Trust to be divided and continue on after Auntie passed. SD continues to be the sole Trustee for half the trust. The trust earns income and SD splits that between herself, DH, and her brother. DH pays taxes on his trust income.

Last year SD distributed the income in plenty of time for us to include it on our taxes (2024 taxes instead of 2025 when DH received the funds. She insisted that was correct.)

Fine. I included the income for 2024. I’m not a tax expert and assumed (what a mistake) she’d gotten legal or tax advice.

So this year, DH did not receive his distribution. I asked him to ask SD if it was coming. DH wouldn’t as he assumed that she didn’t want him to have the money. Ok, not enough to push it with him.

So I do this year’s  2025 taxes, submit them on April 15. On April 16, the check to DH arrives with a 2025 tax form for reporting this year. The check was dated April 1 but she didn’t mail it until April 13, so there is no way it would arrive for the 2025 return. I have to believe that was purposeful.

Now I question whether this is taxable to us in the year the trust earned the income (2025, in which case I need to do an amended return) or when DH received it (2026, in which case SD’s IRS reporting form is incorrect and she won’t change it). Everything I’m seeing says it’s taxable in the year we receive it, unless the Trust itself has some specific language. I have a copy of Auntie’s original Trust but not the Trust that was created after Auntie’s passing. And SD won’t provide it nor provide DH the name of the attorney who set up the new trust.

So great. I get to potentially spend more money than DH received on a tax attorney to tell me what is correct.

Last edited by Merry (4/17/2026 11:57 am)

 

4/17/2026 4:32 pm  #2


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

Yeah that sounds deliberate. 

 

4/18/2026 2:21 pm  #3


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

Deliberate. Yes.

Unfortunately, it is probably time for a consult with a trust lawyer. Not only about the timing and tax implications of the distribution, but the trust itself.

I've never been involved with a trust and its payouts, but I would have thought the check would be in the name of the trust and not SD. SD is the trustee and has a fiduciary responsibility in trust management. How do the beneficiaries know she is fulfilling this responsibility if they don't even know the name of the trust? If I were DH, I'd be telling to a trust lawyer about what information is legally mine and how to get it.

Last edited by notarelative (4/18/2026 2:23 pm)

 

4/18/2026 4:11 pm  #4


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

This is a head-in-the sand moment for DH. Leaving it up to me “because I deal with our finances and our own estate attorney.” Honestly, it would be one more fight so I understand.

I’m considering asking DH to refuse his distributions in future years. The money is nice, but we don’t rely on it for groceries.

And you are right—we have no way of knowing that SD is doing her fiduciary duty for the trust. No accounting, no reporting. A check and an IRS form shows up once a year.

     Thread Starter
 

4/18/2026 4:11 pm  #5


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

Engage a CPA or trust attorney and start tightening the walls of SD's trustee coffin around her.  I am not a CPA but I sleep with one every night.  I would surmise that the check is not income to DH in 2025 as he did not receive the trust distribution until 2026.  However, as I understand it, a trustee can elect for trust payments made within the first 65 days of the year as prior year income distribution.  Since DH did not get the check until April 1 that is outside of the 65 day rule.  The check would have had to be issued by March 7 to comply with the 65 day IRS rule.

Trusts are overseen by Probate Courts so file a complaint with the court that oversaw DH's sister's trust and have them climb SD's backside for her failure to comply with trustee regulation requirements.  Get the check and the canceled post mark envelope to a Judge and make SD's life a living hell.  

Here is a summary of what SD could face for her bull-.  Bring the pain. I would.

Failing to distribute payments by the 65-day rule (IRC Sec. 663(b))—typically by March 5th—prevents a trustee from electing to treat a current-year distribution as having been made in the prior year. This results in higher trust-level income taxes, potential beneficiary income tax penalties, and potential surcharge liability for the trustee due to fiduciary duty breaches. 


  • Higher Tax Bracket: The trust, rather than the beneficiary, will pay taxes on the income, often at higher "kiddie tax" or top tax rates.
  • Missed Tax Savings: The trust misses the opportunity to reduce its taxable income by the amount of the distribution.
  • Interest and Penalties: Late filing or payment resulting from this mistake can trigger IRS penalties and interest for underpayment.
  • Medicare Premium Impact: The delay can adversely impact a beneficiary's Medicare Part B and D 

Legal and Fiduciary Consequences

  • Breach of Fiduciary Duty: The trustee may be accused of failing to manage trust tax obligations diligently, constituting a breach of duty.
  • Surcharge Liability: Beneficiaries can petition the court to surcharge the trustee, forcing them to pay the extra taxes and interest out of their own pocket due to financial loss.
  • Removal of Trustee: Continued failure or negligence can lead to the removal of the trustee by a c

To avoid these consequences, trustees must ensure distributions meant for tax optimization are completed and election forms (1041-T) are filed within the 65-day deadline.

SD declared the distribution as 2025 income after cutting the check almost a month later than required, then delayed posting it until April 13.  She was trying to screw her father. Time to end her and invoke the action likely to return the most severe consequences for her.  You have clear evidence of her violation of her fiducuary duty to the trust recipients.  The check/date and the canceled post date on the envelope.

Last edited by Rags (4/18/2026 4:18 pm)


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4/18/2026 4:31 pm  #6


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

Rags wrote:

Engage a CPA or trust attorney and start tightening the walls of SD's trustee coffin around her.  I am not a CPA but I sleep with one every night.  I would surmise that the check is not income to DH in 2025 as he did not receive the trust distribution until 2026.  However, as I understand it, a trustee can elect for trust payments made within the first 65 days of the year as prior year income distribution.  Since DH did not get the check until April 1 that is outside of the 65 day rule.  The check would have had to be issued by March 7 to comply with the 65 day IRS rule.

Trusts are overseen by Probate Courts so file a complaint with the court that oversaw DH's sister's trust and have them climb SD's backside for her failure to comply with trustee regulation requirements.  Get the check and the canceled post mark envelope to a Judge and make SD's life a living hell.  

Here is a summary of what SD could face for her bull-.  Bring the pain. I would.

Failing to distribute payments by the 65-day rule (IRC Sec. 663(b))—typically by March 5th—prevents a trustee from electing to treat a current-year distribution as having been made in the prior year. This results in higher trust-level income taxes, potential beneficiary income tax penalties, and potential surcharge liability for the trustee due to fiduciary duty breaches. 


  • Higher Tax Bracket: The trust, rather than the beneficiary, will pay taxes on the income, often at higher "kiddie tax" or top tax rates.
  • Missed Tax Savings: The trust misses the opportunity to reduce its taxable income by the amount of the distribution.
  • Interest and Penalties: Late filing or payment resulting from this mistake can trigger IRS penalties and interest for underpayment.
  • Medicare Premium Impact: The delay can adversely impact a beneficiary's Medicare Part B and D 

Legal and Fiduciary Consequences

  • Breach of Fiduciary Duty: The trustee may be accused of failing to manage trust tax obligations diligently, constituting a breach of duty.
  • Surcharge Liability: Beneficiaries can petition the court to surcharge the trustee, forcing them to pay the extra taxes and interest out of their own pocket due to financial loss.
  • Removal of Trustee: Continued failure or negligence can lead to the removal of the trustee by a c

To avoid these consequences, trustees must ensure distributions meant for tax optimization are completed and election forms (1041-T) are filed within the 65-day deadline.

SD declared the distribution as 2025 income after cutting the check almost a month later than required, then delayed posting it until April 13.  She was trying to screw her father. Time to end her and invoke the action likely to return the most severe consequences for her.  You have clear evidence of her violation of her fiducuary duty to the trust recipients.  The check/date and the canceled post date on the envelope.

Rags, you’re not wrong. I was aware of some of that but not all, and I was smart enough to keep a copy of the check and the original postmarked envelope.

I don’t think that either DH or I have the energy or the will to “bring the pain.”  I do have enough energy for a tip to the IRS though after I gather more information.

I’ll see what our trust attorney recommends. We’re in the process of setting up our own trust (with a professional Trustee and an oversight committee thanks to lessons learned), so I’m burning money anyway.

     Thread Starter
 

4/18/2026 5:20 pm  #7


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

So sad...I am frustrated for you @Merry- irresponsible, selfish SD. What crap. 

 

4/18/2026 8:36 pm  #8


Re: Could she be any more passive aggressive?

Ugh. I'm sorry. Yeah...that's purposeful. Glad you will get your own attorney doing your trust to check the one your SD is managing. It's very easy to get that to the IRS. LOL

 

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