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I worked all xmas eve and will work the rest of the week while my DH and his SKIDs took the week off. If that shouldn't seem imbalanced enough the adult SKIDs visiting are of course not grateful, not nice and not even giving me more than one word answers. I finally got off work at 5 p.m. on xmas eve and helping to get dinner ready when DH asks infront of the SKIDs, "So ImperfectlyPerfect, what are WE going to do about helping SKIDs financially?" I am literally starting to relax and take a break and I am jumped with this question in front of the SKIDS as we are sitting down to dinner. No warning, no discussion ahead of time on xmas eve and WORKING to pay our bills. Ruined my evening - truly. SKID sat there expectant and entitled. I am fuming - this is a turning point for me. Shame on DH. Shame on him.
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I’d be furious if DH asked me this in front of his kids. This a a question one asks privately, and not this way. It’s a discussion of why they need help, what they are doing to change their financial circumstances, and can and should we help. We should not put ourselves in debt to help. Not what are we doing to help.
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That is outrageous to ask you that in front of his kids - I'd be sorely tempted to fling a heavy object at him.
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How old are these SK's? And why is is it your responsibility to help them financially? You should have told them that we can help by instilling a good work ethic and financial responsibility in them.
I would be furious. Not that it helps to get angry but that would be my genuine reaction. Step back and let him deal with the circus he's in.
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Holy $h!t!! I'd be LIVID.
As ever, in hindsight, it's easier to think of zingers.
"Well, my dear. Maybe your idea of taking on a 2nd and 3rd job to support them is the way that you should go after all. I know it'll be tough, but I'm sure you're willing to make the sacrifices for YOUR children."
Better yet, "Why would your adult children need us to support them?"
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THANK YOU EVERYONE for the support- this was wonderufl to read and I needed it. Sometimes as a stepparent you feel like you are in a sea all by yourself while the dysfunction swirls around you. It's crazy making.
@notarelative you are exactly right this SHOULD have been a private conversation and I should NOT have been caught off guard. I am working my butt off right now and I become less and less interested in the SKID problems - not my monkey, not my circus....
@kes I agree- glad there was not anything heavy in reach....
@Meera they are 25 & 26 WAY TOO OLD to be asking ME or daddio to figure their stuff out. The next day the SKID sneered at me and told me that they were not trying to ask me to fund this new debt. THEN WHY BRING IT TO ME ON XMAS EVE??? My genuine reaction was anger and frustration - no yelling but I had to leave the table and couldn't finish my food. To work all day while they are out on the town drinking beers, hanging out and then to finally relax have them lay this problem on me. It's uneven and I am fully aware and I don't intend to let that continue.
@Wanderlustre1066 yep- livid was the feeling but I remained somewhat contained. Funny you should say that-
Round 2 came today at lunch after SKID completely ignored me but managed to swallow down the food I made. This is when DH and SKID took time to tell me I "overreacted" and that this was not something they were asking me to solve. SKID had so much animosity in his words and told me "There is so much I could say to you right now."
Telling me this in MY house. Since adult SKID has been there he's consciously ignored me, couldn't even hug me when I greeted him, couldn't look me in the eye and would not even sit near me ALL before laying the problem on me xmas eve. he literally can't stand me and is just a dark cloud hanging over the house.
He also told me he has very little care for me. I think I am actually done this time. I don't need to spend my precious off work time, feeding, being kind, and spending my money and then have problems thrown at me. I did my time with these SKIDs with all their problems growing up and there were many. I am going to be doing the holidays next year without them and if it's alone I am totally fine with that.
We have a scattering of xmas presents under the tree and I haven't even had the energy to open one even on christmas day. Change is coming.
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The fact that he put you on the spot in front of them adds proof to my theory that behind every toxic skid is a toxic parent who made them that way. What a sh!tty thing for him to say.
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I'm so sorry this happened. I'm with everyone else on this one. I'd be beyond livid. I hate this for you. Stay strong. Change is a good thing!
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How awful.
We all have a breaking point. USE your anger to help propel changes. Take some time to figure out real boundaries and real consequences.
What do YOU need to be happy? How can you rid yourself of this toxic mess in your life?
We find ourselves in situations that don’t feel real, wonder if we’re the crazy one, think maybe we’ve misunderstood. Then try to move on for the sake of “peace.” (Who’s peace? Not yours.)
Nope. It’s misery. Time for change.
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This is awful, and should have never happened.
I might have been irked enough to say, WELLLL darling based on my calculations, you have given 300K (or what ever that amount may be) in child support to their mom.
Certainly she opened bank accounts for them...didn't she? Didn't she say the money was going to the children?
LOL
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Rumplestiltskin wrote:
The fact that he put you on the spot in front of them adds proof to my theory that behind every toxic skid is a toxic parent who made them that way. What a sh!tty thing for him to say.
Yep. Really lacking in empathy for the stepmom still- it's being placed on me as if I "overreacted."
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MorningMia wrote:
I'm so sorry this happened. I'm with everyone else on this one. I'd be beyond livid. I hate this for you. Stay strong. Change is a good thing!
I was livid but contained on how I showed it in the moment. I had to endure a barrage of bad behavior prior to the incident and after the incident more garbage including a moment where SKID showed so much animosity that I had tears streaming down my face (crying for me is rare). I just realized this is hopeless and there's no way they are going to see how unfair this was to me. They simply do not care.
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Merry wrote:
How awful.
We all have a breaking point. USE your anger to help propel changes. Take some time to figure out real boundaries and real consequences.
What do YOU need to be happy? How can you rid yourself of this toxic mess in your life?
We find ourselves in situations that don’t feel real, wonder if we’re the crazy one, think maybe we’ve misunderstood. Then try to move on for the sake of “peace.” (Who’s peace? Not yours.)
Nope. It’s misery. Time for change.
This is 100% right. The change is coming. I have to go CajunMom style and I don't think I can have the SKIDs at the house any longer - it's just too disruptive, disrespectful and problematic. There is nothing great that comes my way and DH takes the breadcrumbs. He's gotta go visit them elsewhere.
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Thumper wrote:
This is awful, and should have never happened.
I might have been irked enough to say, WELLLL darling based on my calculations, you have given 300K (or what ever that amount may be) in child support to their mom.
Certainly she opened bank accounts for them...didn't she? Didn't she say the money was going to the children?
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HAHAHA so very witty Thumper- yeah. Isn't it wild? So much glory to the other parents and a bag of flaming dog poo for the stepparents who have all the responsibility, none of the authority. The only happy ending in all this is I am dealing with adult SKIDs now and I have no need to take care of their financial problems. It's ALL on them and I have to remind myself "NOT MY MONKEYS, NOT MY CIRCUS."
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ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
Merry wrote:
How awful.
We all have a breaking point. USE your anger to help propel changes. Take some time to figure out real boundaries and real consequences.
What do YOU need to be happy? How can you rid yourself of this toxic mess in your life?
We find ourselves in situations that don’t feel real, wonder if we’re the crazy one, think maybe we’ve misunderstood. Then try to move on for the sake of “peace.” (Who’s peace? Not yours.)
Nope. It’s misery. Time for change.This is 100% right. The change is coming. I have to go CajunMom style and I don't think I can have the SKIDs at the house any longer - it's just too disruptive, disrespectful and problematic. There is nothing great that comes my way and DH takes the breadcrumbs. He's gotta go visit them elsewhere.
"Breadcrumbs." I used to use that word a lot.
Thirteen years ago after a horrific Thanksgiving visit to our home where we (note: I) went all out, the skids hadn't even made it to the driveway as they were leaving when I calmly looked at DH and said, "They aren't stepping back into this house until I receive a sincere apology and see a sincere behavior change. I won't be treated like this in my own house." I'll never forget the look on his face--it was one of embarrassment and shame, even though he had spent the prior 5 or so years denying their god-awful behavior.
SS called me about a week later, apologized, and we talked for a while. But, as the years passed, his behavior worsened. In hindsight, I see that he was trying to blame his "along-for-the-ride" behavior on his younger sister, which is pathetic. I didn't see, hear from, or barely think about SD for seven wonderful years.
I let down my guard and got sucked back in--very briefly--a few times since that time. And I shut the door swift and hard after they were here acting like animals when DH was sick a few years ago. You hope that they mature, that they grow up, but somehow, here, the behavior worsened. . . more clever, more passive aggressive as they've aged.
If DH wants to see them, he goes to them. They will never step foot inside this house again. Do it!
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MorningMia wrote:
ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
Merry wrote:
How awful.
We all have a breaking point. USE your anger to help propel changes. Take some time to figure out real boundaries and real consequences.
What do YOU need to be happy? How can you rid yourself of this toxic mess in your life?
We find ourselves in situations that don’t feel real, wonder if we’re the crazy one, think maybe we’ve misunderstood. Then try to move on for the sake of “peace.” (Who’s peace? Not yours.)
Nope. It’s misery. Time for change.This is 100% right. The change is coming. I have to go CajunMom style and I don't think I can have the SKIDs at the house any longer - it's just too disruptive, disrespectful and problematic. There is nothing great that comes my way and DH takes the breadcrumbs. He's gotta go visit them elsewhere.
"Breadcrumbs." I used to use that word a lot.
Thirteen years ago after a horrific Thanksgiving visit to our home where we (note: I) went all out, the skids hadn't even made it to the driveway as they were leaving when I calmly looked at DH and said, "They aren't stepping back into this house until I receive a sincere apology and see a sincere behavior change. I won't be treated like this in my own house." I'll never forget the look on his face--it was one of embarrassment and shame, even though he had spent the prior 5 or so years denying their god-awful behavior.
SS called me about a week later, apologized, and we talked for a while. But, as the years passed, his behavior worsened. In hindsight, I see that he was trying to blame his "along-for-the-ride" behavior on his younger sister, which is pathetic. I didn't see, hear from, or barely think about SD for seven wonderful years.
I let down my guard and got sucked back in--very briefly--a few times since that time. And I shut the door swift and hard after they were here acting like animals when DH was sick a few years ago. You hope that they mature, that they grow up, but somehow, here, the behavior worsened. . . more clever, more passive aggressive as they've aged.
If DH wants to see them, he goes to them. They will never step foot inside this house again. Do it!
This advice is GOLD- I agree @MorningMia I am on the same path. I am done with it all. DH can go off to see them- they contribute absolutely nothing to my life and after all that went down I realized I don't even enjoy them. One SKID I don't see or talk to at all and I have never once felt like I am "missing out." So here's the second one- I hope I don't relapse. I appreciated you telling me that you have had those situations come back into your life and that it recycled just as negative and toxic as before but in an older more passive aggressive way. I am truly done. Kid told me "I don't care about you." To my face and in front of family members - believe the words and realize this ain't getting better.
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ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
MorningMia wrote:
ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
This is 100% right. The change is coming. I have to go CajunMom style and I don't think I can have the SKIDs at the house any longer - it's just too disruptive, disrespectful and problematic. There is nothing great that comes my way and DH takes the breadcrumbs. He's gotta go visit them elsewhere.
"Breadcrumbs." I used to use that word a lot.
Thirteen years ago after a horrific Thanksgiving visit to our home where we (note: I) went all out, the skids hadn't even made it to the driveway as they were leaving when I calmly looked at DH and said, "They aren't stepping back into this house until I receive a sincere apology and see a sincere behavior change. I won't be treated like this in my own house." I'll never forget the look on his face--it was one of embarrassment and shame, even though he had spent the prior 5 or so years denying their god-awful behavior.
SS called me about a week later, apologized, and we talked for a while. But, as the years passed, his behavior worsened. In hindsight, I see that he was trying to blame his "along-for-the-ride" behavior on his younger sister, which is pathetic. I didn't see, hear from, or barely think about SD for seven wonderful years.
I let down my guard and got sucked back in--very briefly--a few times since that time. And I shut the door swift and hard after they were here acting like animals when DH was sick a few years ago. You hope that they mature, that they grow up, but somehow, here, the behavior worsened. . . more clever, more passive aggressive as they've aged.
If DH wants to see them, he goes to them. They will never step foot inside this house again. Do it!This advice is GOLD- I agree @MorningMia I am on the same path. I am done with it all. DH can go off to see them- they contribute absolutely nothing to my life and after all that went down I realized I don't even enjoy them. One SKID I don't see or talk to at all and I have never once felt like I am "missing out." So here's the second one- I hope I don't relapse. I appreciated you telling me that you have had those situations come back into your life and that it recycled just as negative and toxic as before but in an older more passive aggressive way. I am truly done. Kid told me "I don't care about you." To my face and in front of family members - believe the words and realize this ain't getting better.
A cautionary tale: What was particularly sick about this situation is that SD in particular purposely "reeled me in" twice: No communication (me and SD) for 7 years. But when she found a guy to marry, she didn't tell us; she instead (wanting money for the wedding) told DH she wanted to come to our house and clear the air so that we could all "move forward." She had to bring her brother along for support. She got drunk one night and tried to tell me a BS story about why she had been angry at me, but also explained that she had felt when younger that I was "stealing her father" from her. Later, when she talked about this guy she was seeing, the purpose of the visit became clear. I said to DH: "SD is dating, right?" "yes." Me: "She's planning on getting married." A couple months later she contacted DH and asked for money for the wedding. The intent of her visit couldn't have been more obvious and disgusting. I was so proud of my husband (I did not provide any input; I was unaware of the ask): He offered to pay for her dress. Period. SD and BM clearly were not happy. DH's words, "They haven't wanted me to be a father to her; why would I be 100% a father to her now and pay for her wedding?"
Then SD got pregnant the first time. They sent me an electronic shower invite. I really should have known better by this time...as I've reported here ad nauseum, we were treated horribly at her wedding. But...awww...a baby. I sent gifts (I never would have gone to the shower..they knew that..they were 8 hours away). They proceeded to post loads of pictures on social media of the shower--several of "all" the gifts gathered together. . . at various angles. Guess whose gifts were not in the photos? At that point, I just thought, "LEAVE ME ALONE." Why the games? Just stop! I received another shower invite (gift grab attempt) as SD kept breeding. I ignored it. They left me alone about the third pregnancy.
A couple years pass and DH had his medical crisis and they came here to "help"-- "Help" drive me to my grave.
It's been great having DH go to them when he wants to see them. He's been making those trips since 2013 with sporadic visits here from SS, who is now banned from our home, too. I've always used those long weekends to pamper myself. . . get together with girlfriends, go to a spa, just hang out by myself and enjoy the quiet.
Whew! It's a journey, that's for sure! Best of luck to you.
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ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
MorningMia wrote:
ImperfectlyPerfect wrote:
This is 100% right. The change is coming. I have to go CajunMom style and I don't think I can have the SKIDs at the house any longer - it's just too disruptive, disrespectful and problematic. There is nothing great that comes my way and DH takes the breadcrumbs. He's gotta go visit them elsewhere.
"Breadcrumbs." I used to use that word a lot.
Thirteen years ago after a horrific Thanksgiving visit to our home where we (note: I) went all out, the skids hadn't even made it to the driveway as they were leaving when I calmly looked at DH and said, "They aren't stepping back into this house until I receive a sincere apology and see a sincere behavior change. I won't be treated like this in my own house." I'll never forget the look on his face--it was one of embarrassment and shame, even though he had spent the prior 5 or so years denying their god-awful behavior.
SS called me about a week later, apologized, and we talked for a while. But, as the years passed, his behavior worsened. In hindsight, I see that he was trying to blame his "along-for-the-ride" behavior on his younger sister, which is pathetic. I didn't see, hear from, or barely think about SD for seven wonderful years.
I let down my guard and got sucked back in--very briefly--a few times since that time. And I shut the door swift and hard after they were here acting like animals when DH was sick a few years ago. You hope that they mature, that they grow up, but somehow, here, the behavior worsened. . . more clever, more passive aggressive as they've aged.
If DH wants to see them, he goes to them. They will never step foot inside this house again. Do it!This advice is GOLD- I agree @MorningMia I am on the same path. I am done with it all. DH can go off to see them- they contribute absolutely nothing to my life and after all that went down I realized I don't even enjoy them. One SKID I don't see or talk to at all and I have never once felt like I am "missing out." So here's the second one- I hope I don't relapse. I appreciated you telling me that you have had those situations come back into your life and that it recycled just as negative and toxic as before but in an older more passive aggressive way. I am truly done. Kid told me "I don't care about you." To my face and in front of family members - believe the words and realize this ain't getting better.
By the way, this (in bold above) is beyond maddening. And I do want to mention that CajunMom is an expert at disengaging and taking care of herself.