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12/13/2025 7:13 pm  #1


A New Low for SD64 rent is

10 years ago, I bought my Mom's condo for SD64 to live in after a disasterous year at our house.  She pays $400 of the maintenance fee and the electric.  Due to car issues, the last few months, she's often been living with her daughter, C, in C's Section 8 apartment.  She likes it there and has applied for her own place.  I thought she was doing better with C's cooking and more social contact.

My son called me last week to say two men are living in the condo and paying SD64 rent   i was incensed but preoccupied with DH87's cardiac catheterization and multiple blood tests prior to his upcoming heart valve transplant.  I didn't tell him til the night before she would be here to clean Friday.  While she was here, I asked if two men were living there.  I knew she'd have a good lie ready and supposedly, C's baby daddy stops there after his therapy.  DH did press it while I was not there but I heard him talking to her when I went downstairs. Of course, he doesn't want to upset his delicate flower.  We are going to sell it 

She said she guessed she'd have to rent a storage .unit for her furniture.  I said she'd have $400 more a month since she won't be paying me.  She seemed ticked off, so sorry about that, SD.

Every time I start to trust her, I get a reality check.  The good news. Is I can unload the condo now.
 

 

12/13/2025 7:55 pm  #2


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JRI - Every time I start to trust her, I get a reality check.  The good news. Is I can unload the condo now.

You can polish  and though it may take on a shine, for a while anyway, it will always be what it is.

I'm sorry that she is proving yet again who and what she is.

I am glad to hear that DH is going in for a valve job. That is great news.

I hope that selling the condo will get you some financial benefit and some increased distance and separation from SD.  Please do not lock up any of your resources for her benefit going forward. It is long past time that she actually own her own daily existence.  It is stunning that she would gravitate to section 8 housing when she has an affordable home to live in that is not in the section 8 environment.

Last edited by Rags (12/13/2025 9:04 pm)


If you can't listen and learn, you will have to feel.  WLR
 

12/13/2025 8:43 pm  #3


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Sell, sell, sell!! Hopefully she hasn't destroyed it.

 

12/13/2025 10:07 pm  #4


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Oh goodness, hopefully the squatters aren't there when you go with the realtor for the walkthrough!

 

12/14/2025 11:15 am  #5


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Yep, when people show you who they are, believe them. I can't wrap my head around how many adults are so incredibly irresponsible. Mind boggling. 


When someone shows you who they are, believe them. 
 

12/14/2025 11:52 am  #6


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As a person who was on my own independently since I was around 22 years old I have little empathy for someone at age 64 who is doing the things they are. I juat can't even fathom being that reliant on another person. I can only imagine the amount of help she's received from others through the years and then to turn around and try to make a sneaky profit off someone elses kindness of helping. Just wow

 

12/14/2025 12:17 pm  #7


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Unfortunately, I think you need to consult a lawyer about landlord/ tenant rights and sublets in your area and how to proceed with the sale if people are living there. It can be messy if they don’t leave. 

I am so sorry that this new low surfaced. It definitely is not what you and DH needed now. 

 

 

12/14/2025 5:06 pm  #8


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Wow. I'm so sorry to hear this, JRI. Absolutely disgusting what your SD did. Hopefully, the "squatters" will leave willingly. Definitely sell it and I'd be VERY careful about trusting the woman anymore. At her age, there is really not much of a chance she's going to change. Her "changes" will only be to get one over on you and your DH. 

 

12/15/2025 8:54 am  #9


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My heart goes out to you JRI,..especially since you finally felt at ease thinking she was finally turning things around for the better for herself and heading in the right direction. I know how difficult it is to try to be optimistic and give these SKIDS the benefit of the doubt, thinking that was all going to work out well and pay off in the end in terms of peace of mind that SD64 was getting her life together only to be proven wrong time and time again, 
NOT that Im saying it is flawed to be a kind giving person with empathy. All of us SM's do start off being naturally caring people, but there still comes a time when you have to just LET people learn from life and stop coming to their rescue, you can only do that so much especially for someone your SD's age who , not unlike my own who is about half her age or so, has had more than enough chances to get it together and be functional adults, yet they keep falling back in the same patterns characterized by irresponsible decision making. These skids just never chance in my experience as well,,,just keep that same cycle going on and on
Not that you haven't been all along, but take this a sign to just focus your efforts on DH's health and hoping you can sell that condo off with as little headaches as possible so you and DH can possibly have one less thing on your plate and a little bit to stash away financially. 

 

12/15/2025 10:21 am  #10


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I wonder if she was renting it out for more than $400 a month.

 

12/15/2025 10:51 am  #11


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Rumplestiltskin wrote:

I wonder if she was renting it out for more than $400 a month.

I'm wondering that, too, Rumple.

 

12/15/2025 5:12 pm  #12


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I think that it is long past time to go scorched earth with this one.

Much of my career has been about outsourcing.  Though it is hearbreaking to have to invoke a reduction in force when the people impacted are good at what they do and at no fault in the situation. 

I do not fire anyone for cause. They fire themselves.  SD has invoked consequences on herself, and she should be the one to have to deal with her squat buddies when they are run off with their tails between their legs.

I suggest that you outsource to a hyper aggressive specialist firm to deal with SD's sublet squatter revenue stream.


  • Specialist Eviction Firms: Companies like Clearway or National Eviction Team handle squatters, protesters, and travelers, managing the entire process from legal orders (like Writs of Possession) to enforcement.

Start engaging highly intrusive services like pest control that will gas out the property on a regular basis.  Engage highly intrusive property inspectors, loud land scaping services like tree trimming, lawn mowing, etc. I know it is a condo, so call the HOA and get them involved in all of this activity.

Hire a very loud duct and carpet cleaning service.

Light the fuses and have fun!!!   At some point, even kids/skids become a write off when they refuse to be decent.


If you can't listen and learn, you will have to feel.  WLR
 

12/15/2025 5:44 pm  #13


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Rumplestiltskin wrote:

I wonder if she was renting it out for more than $400 a month.

highly likely. My step daughter was renting her mom’s rental at half the rent mom could normally get to help help sd out. Step daughter moved boyfriend in and charged him…..the same amount she was paying. 🫠🫠


Rejoined for hopefully less ads and more privacy. 
 

12/15/2025 8:26 pm  #14


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Subletting to unknowns is common especially in tenant friendly areas.  I had a situation where the original tenants, Three roommates had a fight over wi-fi. The two more stable roommates moved out and the remaining roommate went nuts and invited criminals into the unit who were squatting and were threatening the crazy roommate.

Fortunately they left on their own and I was able to have the crazy remaining roommate confirm he was out.  I live in a completely tenant friendly area so squatters have rights.

They left a fairly big mess, the more stable roommate took forever to get her stuff out, and the damages exceeded the security deposit.  They don't have much money so I'm just going to 1099 code G them when I do my taxes for 2025.

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12/15/2025 11:15 pm  #15


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I suggest that you outsource to a hyper aggressive specialist firm to deal with SD's sublet squatter revenue stream.


  • Specialist Eviction Firms: Companies like Clearway or National Eviction Team handle squatters, protesters, and travelers, managing the entire process

If she weren't JRI's husband's daughter I'd cheer this on. But, since she is, and JRI's  DH still has a soft spot for her, I'd try something less aggressive first. You want her out of the condo, but you don't want to ruin the chance she has to get the apartment she has already applied for. An eviction might do that.
If in the end eviction is necessary, it's necessary. But, I would try something less drastic first (thinking lawyer letter).

 

12/15/2025 11:53 pm  #16


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When you wrote that your SKs stepped up and were a consolation to you and your dh while he was sick, it inspired in me a little hope that SS could be a positive force one day. At the same time, I often use the false hope that SS will be/is better than my image of him to question myself and my perceptions. I think it would be easier for me just to write him off, and feel justified and satisfied in maintaining my disengagement. The truth is none of us are all good nor all bad, so there are always going to be moments when the SKs show their better selves. But for my sanity, I think it's important for me to affirm my perceptions and judgments about general patterns of behavior of SS, and to protect my boundaries. Dh would love me to abandon my perceptions and impose his narrative of a virtuous SS. But I have to look at the overall picture and trust in my assessment even if no one else shares it.

 

12/16/2025 1:20 pm  #17


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I was really hoping your SD turned a very big corner

She’ll have all kinds of excuses and justifications for the squatters, and crocodile tears too probably.

All you can do is move forward to get it sold. Hope the clean up after them is minimal. And I hope you get a fabulous price!

 

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