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11/11/2025 2:45 pm  #1


STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

I FINALLY made my way back to here. Honestly, been so busy with life that has absolutely NOTHING to do with StepHell ( not that it doesn't come to mind here and there) But getting used to the new job with all that entails keeps me really busy and engaged. I am going to take this is as a good thing since it means I don't have much of the time nor the energy to squander away on SD30, just focusing on more important things.
No matter the quiet, ,,that doesn't mean I don't randomly get wind of some drama, which ONCE again, as always only reinforces my position to stay disengaged.,I actually feel that its one of the best personal decisions I made for myself.
Especially since last night, I by accident, saw a post by one of DH;s 2nd cousin ( she is the stepdaughter  if DH first cousin, and  I will say some of her posts hint at that same entitled SD syndrome but that's another thing) THIS POST said to be on the Lookout for the 13 years SGranddaughter because she has been missing for a week apparently. 
I Know that even thought I was engaged, my curiosity and general sense of concern was piqued enough to look through the missing child reports I our area or any news to see that this wasn't an abduction or nothing worse went down. I didn't think so because you would think an AMber Alert would have gone out or this incident would have made some headline. I suspected she  ran away from home 
IT turns out I was correct according to this little snippet from Newsbreak from local police and the transcript of the call, SGkids age, DOB and address were all there, the report, dated from NOv 2,  stating that she has had quite the history of running away from home, so This is hardly the First time at the rodeo and suggests a regular thing.. Sure enough I found another blurb reporting the same thing dated only a little over  month ago as well. Then there was mentioned of SGD being on PINS probabtion diagnosed with ODD. This is an eerily similar patterns starting when SD herself was 13, as she also inhertied BM's mental illness only they allegly have Bipolar. No matter, I am remembering SD exhibiting some of the same behaviors as with ODD so maybe a little combo of each, who knows.
I know that this news should not be something to gloat over, but I suspected this would be the writing on the wall 14 years ago when teen SD got knocked up by a TEEN Baby Daddy, both afflicted with the same mental and emotional instabilty issues and also have had run ins with the law as former Juvenile deliquents , so THIS comes as no shock or surprise to me whatsoever,  I Know it wasnt fair to predict the is for SDG 13 or for SGranddaugher 2, age 10 as plenty of people who grow up in total chaotic dysfunction yet manage to turn things around hope against hope.
However, just like with SD who was 12 close to 13 when I arrived on the scene, it is just NOT looking good in terms of this uncanny pattern of generational dysfunction being broken anytime too soon.
If DH know of any of this information, I have no idea because he hasn't said a word .I hate to say I told him so, which is why I am not saying a damn word myself. Its just not worth it. I am telling you, if you think dealing with a troubled SD is challenging enough who even at almost 31 years old still acts like shes 13 herself, a child raising other children) then JUST wait til the stepgrands come along that you cant say Anything about either even when they are on their worst behavior so why bother? 
As I have thought a million times, part of me is dying to yell at and shake SD especially as well as MIL OR ANYONE who even thinks with the slightest twinge of disappointment over how me and SD are close and never really totally got along consistently.  THIS IS WHY I choose ( from the start with the stepgrands) NOT to get so involved! WHY would anyone believe that I would WANT to go through another rendition of especially troubled teen stepHell with the grandskids??? I feel sure SD is already passing the buck behind my back, just assigning blame to either me or DH or BM, baby daddy, or literally anyone over her kid having these issues because we werent as involved as we should be, Because in her mind, as she has said so to me when she was trying to weasle her way of accepting accountabilty for her own poor choices, that it was my fault because I am the one who should have anticipated these situations BEFORE marrying someone with a child. Give me a break, as if she didn't need to do apply any thought before she decided to have kids of her own, especially given how she is struggling now.
This latest news just seems to also validate my suspicions as to WHY she decided to Butter me up demanding that I love and treat her kids as her own. Surely she is joking?  I am remembering how she used to say that SGD was already showing sign of inheriting her mothers ( SD30) "attitude" at that same time too she was begging for us to "be close"...my gut instinct has been telling me that this all just translates to her trying to persuade and Guilt trip me into taking care of HEr and Her family, when the full weight of choices got to be too much. So lets love bomb Amy thinking I was going to take on HER expectations just because she actually had said a few nice words to me, but that all just blew up in her sulky face for me not buying into it. 
I used to be afraid that the SGrands would end up like SD, from the get go.  I really had hope that I would be wrong, and maybe at 13 there is still time to change course. . But what can you reasonably expect from parents who operated in illegal activities, have record and just seem to proud of it, as it its an honor? SD30 gets arrested for prostitution as well as involvement in a whole ring operation, and just either glamorizes or justifies it as being a totally normal thing.  Should it be any wonder if her daughters follow the same path, that SGD13's stint of violating a PINS order and getting herself in God knows what kind of trouble already, isn't just the start? 


 

 

11/16/2025 5:45 pm  #2


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Generational dysfunction is real and hard to break. My ex-SO came from it, his daughters carried it on, and when a grand was born i knew the beat goes on. That poor baby’s dad is already out of the picture and she and her mom (my ex-sort-of-SD) are living with BM1 and completely being supported by the state, my ex, and BM1. The baby is 8 months old and i hope she breaks the cycle but i won’t be hanging around to find out.

 

11/18/2025 2:35 pm  #3


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Take it from me in that you are wise to decide not to hang around to take on another round of Step sh!t, the next generation.  I know i am a broken record, but this info is just fueling my anger more and more over SD30 having the gall to lecture ME about how what I was supposed to think of before marrying someone with a child> As if , as recent events demonstrate, that SHE should have thought of before she CHOSE to have her own children! Who the eff is she? Like she honestly signed up to have an out of control teen , just like I was supposed to gleefully sign up to deal with a stepchild like her , just as unruly and defiant.   I know its just her typical deflecting the blame tactic , anything to avoid looking in the mirror and facing the music now that one of her kids are unfortunately, yet predictably turning out to be just like her.  Its almost laughable, You just cant make this sh!t up. THEN lectures to me how she loves her "stepkids" like her own (Her BFs kids, and who knows if he is still around) Please, like I dont know she cant control her own offspring who do not respect her, so what makes me feel that its any different with someone elses' kids?  I am just trying not to stress that she doesnt darken my doorstep ordering DH and I to have custody of her brood. Something that I was in constant fear of happening some way or another someday from the minute I found out she was pregnant. 

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11/24/2025 9:33 pm  #4


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

@LittleTypeAmy - that’s rich, SD trying to lecture you on stepparenting. Give her a few years and she’ll be trying to post here! My first few years, I was “all in”, too. Lol. The people who crow the loudest about “loving them like their own” are the ones doing Lord-knows-what behind closed doors

 

11/25/2025 2:37 pm  #5


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Poster children for parent initiated implanted birth control for disturbed minor aged teens with a behavioral illness Dx.  Of course, once they hit the age of majority their breeding cannot be controlled.  

In my mind the question is, why support repeated generational bad choices?  I get that these are our kids and GKs. However, if not left to crash and burn as adults, they just seem to keep propagating the problem.

Teen breeding is a challenging enough issue when Dx'd issues are not in play. Throw in emotional/behavioral/psych issues and it is a sh!t storm of incredible proportions that will not end in the current and likely not the next generation.

I'm married to a former single teen mom.  Though in my son's case, he won the mom lottery.  Interestingly, there are no Dx'd syndromes of the moment in my IL clan, but they propagate generational failure nearly without fail.  Except for my bride. For whatever reason she is the one that has broken the cycle even with being a 16 & pregnant teen mom.   She broke the cycle for herself, and for her son.   BIL2 is re1 repeated the cycle, his kids are repeating the cycle (so far anyway), BIL2 is repeating the cycle (His kids are too young to tell yet), SIL is repeating the cycle (her kids are young enough to be TBD).

DW has cousins who are so damaged that they consciously bred to provide themselves a source of unconditional love.  That is mainly on her BioDad's side.  These cousins are products of such troubled relationships that a number of them have clearly stated they got pregnant as child moms so someone would love them.  They all have these herds of love breeding friends who celebrate and spout endless blather about how they are great moms, beautiful, etc... All are on SNAP or Section 8 housing, or, or, or, or, or... I am scared to death for their children.

I tease my bride that she is either a mutant or an alien implant.  She truly is exceptional and a clear outlier to her familial situation.

So many medical/emotional/behavioral/psych issues seem to be inherited.  How do we break the cycle?

Take me and my disease as a corelation.  T-1 diabetics were a relative rarity for the entire course of human history.  Though T-1 diabetes has been known since the time of the ancient Greeks, since it tended to show up in younger children who only survived for a few weeks or a few months at most once it manifested, the autoimmune genetics did not propagate broadly.  Basically, sweet kids/young adults (hence the term Juvenile onset diabetes) died before they were old enough to breed. So, the disease was self-limiting.

Then in 1921 Drs Banting and Best isolated the insulin hormone from harvested dog pancreas.  A year later it was first used to treat humans with Diabetes, and the explosion of T-1 diabetes started.  People who would have never procreated were procreating. This is part of the reason why I do not have BKs.  I would not propagate this disease to people I detest much less to my own children.  Though with modern medical technoligy a T-1 can live a long productive healthy life. IF, not the BIG if, they keep their head in the game.  Sadly, many do not. Even more sadly, many parents to these kids are a huge problem.  Shoveling sweets to their kids and juicing them up with "gallons" of insulin on the premise that they won't deny their children joy.  Idiots!  

It appears logical that with the demise of State hospitals and institutionalized separation of the syndromed population, a similar explosion of behavioral/emotional/mental illness has occurred to that of T-1 diabetes.   People propagate.  That is what we do.  Historically self-limiting conditions are no longer self-limited with advances in medical interventions, therapies, and social evolution.  

It seems to me that emotional/ behavioral/mental illness and my disease have some multigenerational propagation parallels.  My engineeric brain often wonders why supposedly rational adults support the seemingly never-ending repetitive cycle of disfunction?

I get that people are not machines. I get that humanity, emotion, free will, etc... are all in play.  

But how do we fix it?  Clearly doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result isn't working.  Loving them through it isn't working.

But as is often the case. I digress.

  

 

Last edited by Rags (11/25/2025 2:50 pm)


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11/25/2025 10:32 pm  #6


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

@Rags - Have you seen the movie “Idiocracy?”

 

12/15/2025 11:54 am  #7


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Tell me about it, dear Rumple and Rags. The cycle just never ends with some of these types, and my hat goes off to anyone who successfully breaks it, but I stopped holding out hope a long time ago that things would turn out any differently for SD31 as recent news suggests, sadly. 
RUmple, I also cant get over getting "advice" from SD who is the last person on earth who should be lecturing anyone about anything, especially Parenting in all forms since she cant get her own house in order apparently but  she can be counted on to be the first person to try to tell you how to run yours. You are correct, its those who crow the loudest are the same ones who don't have sh!t going for them.   She also goes on to try to lecture me on how I am :supposed to want more out of my life aside from her Dad" as if she knows anything about me and its not her place to dictate sh!t to me anyhow. LIke I don't suspect that in her mind, she means me enriching my life is supposed to be taking care of her problems especially her childcare woes, because that's what SHE wants my purpose to be. Oh yeah, as if taking on her out of control spawn is what I set out as my life's purpose and goals out of all the better things in the world I have my sights set to focus on...girl needs to get over herself x 10000. 
 

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12/15/2025 12:01 pm  #8


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Rumplestiltskin wrote:

@LittleTypeAmy - that’s rich, SD trying to lecture you on stepparenting. Give her a few years and she’ll be trying to post here! My first few years, I was “all in”, too. Lol. The people who crow the loudest about “loving them like their own” are the ones doing Lord-knows-what behind closed doors

HIts the nail on the end. The irony is that SD thinks that I don't have any clue as to what is going on behind HER closed doors as if I was never wise to it. This wasn't the first time some of this chaos behind the scenes have come to light and in the form of somewhat public knowledge, like I don't eventually find sh!t out, since the truth usually comes out. 

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12/15/2025 3:23 pm  #9


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

Rumplestiltskin wrote:

@Rags - Have you seen the movie “Idiocracy?”

Yes, I have seen the movie.  Another movie that tugs on some of the same strings is Don't Look Up.

I am reviewing this book now.  I have not read it entirely yet. But it is unfolding to be interesting.Idiocracy: The Culture of the New Idiot Zoran TerzićMichael Turnbull (Translation)
 


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12/15/2025 4:24 pm  #10


Re: STEP-GrandSkids/ PINS Probation.

LittleTypeAmy wrote:

Tell me about it, dear Rumple and Rags. The cycle just never ends with some of these types, and my hat goes off to anyone who successfully breaks it, but I stopped holding out hope a long time ago that things would turn out any differently for SD31 as recent news suggests, sadly. 
RUmple, I also cant get over getting "advice" from SD who is the last person on earth who should be lecturing anyone about anything, especially Parenting in all forms since she cant get her own house in order apparently but  she can be counted on to be the first person to try to tell you how to run yours. You are correct, its those who crow the loudest are the same ones who don't have sh!t going for them.   She also goes on to try to lecture me on how I am :supposed to want more out of my life aside from her Dad" as if she knows anything about me and its not her place to dictate sh!t to me anyhow. LIke I don't suspect that in her mind, she means me enriching my life is supposed to be taking care of her problems especially her childcare woes, because that's what SHE wants my purpose to be. Oh yeah, as if taking on her out of control spawn is what I set out as my life's purpose and goals out of all the better things in the world I have my sights set to focus on...girl needs to get over herself x 10000. 
 

These types are both tragic and interesting.  They regularly seem to doom their children to repeat their own failures in life.  They have a nearly entirely unsubstantiated sense of superiority that has zero backing it regarding actual accomplishment and performance.

My XW was one, as was my XMIL.  Both devoid of character. Absolutely none. Yet, they smirked their way through life until it all collapsed.  My XW has three different all out of wedlock children by two cheat buddies and has at least two failed marriages under her belt. At last update from mutual friends, she was on DH #3.  The eldest  and youngest of her children were conceived while she was married to someone other than the spermdaddy.  I feel for XW's children.  A cheating whore for a mother and a convicted felon former prison inmate for a grandmother.  My XMIL's obit popped up recently.  All warm and complimentary of how wonderful a wife, mother, sister, grandmother, parishioner, member of the community she was. No mention of her conviction as a federal felon embezzler of $Millions. No mention of the $Multi-million civil suit that required her and the family (except for my XBIL) to repay $Millions to the business owner she ripped off.  Funny how the polished  model works and tends to repeat itself generation by generation.  Yes, I am being all judgy.  

My SS's BioDad is a product of SpermGrandHag who is one of these types.  SS is the only one of the Spermidiot's 4 children who is a viable adult of character, honor, and standing in his life, profession, and community.  I feel for my son's younger sibs.  Interestingly, the Spermidiot's sister is apparently a decent person.  The sister was primarily raised by SpermGrandPa and is in a stable marriage with kids.  While the Spermidiot was primarily raised by the SpermGrandHag.   The thing that makes me go Hmmmmm  with them all is that SpermGrandHag and SpermGrandPa have been married for decades.  Though SpermGrandPa apparently has had a very active extramarital partner life for much of their marriage.  The SpermIdiot has key characteristics of both the Hag and her DH.  In some ways I wish I knew more about my SS's aunt.  But our son has had zero contact from or toward any of them in a decade or more.

My parents have very dear friends who raised their daughter with a parental framework of failure and their GKs are a repeat of their own DD.  The DH in that marriage served in the USMC with my dad, they married while they served.  Their DD is an OC.  The mother basically coddled the DD through school doing much of her schoolwork for her, all the way through university.  When the DD married, mom would go to the young couple's home and clean, cook, coddle her DD, care for their babies, do the grocery shopping, laundry, etc.....   This is a married not unsuccessful adult couple, and mommy was the beck and call girl, maid, cook, and nanny.  That couple and my parents have done several RV trips together over the years.  Invariably the phone rings, and the couple packs up, hooks up their RV and rushes off with the wife in panic mode to coddle their middle aged DD through whatever crisis of the moment is unfolding.  

The last trip was different. The DH refused to leave and told his wife that he was not leaving and if she was leaving, she could figure out how to get home on her own and that he would be home when the trip was completed as planned.  The feedback is always that there was no actual crisis.  It is their DD being entirely incapable of making a decision, doing anything, or functioning without mommy at her side.  Off the wife went. Thus, ending what turned out to be their last couple RV trip with my parents.  Dad and the DH meet about once a year to hike the highest peak in whatever State they have planned to conquer next. Not peaks that require technical gear. They are approaching their mid 80s.

Apparently the GKs have all run crying home from university and can't function without Granny.  The DH is pretty much willfully apathetic about it all and focused on enjoying his life.  After a while, the DW indicates that she wants to go on a trip. After the last one, the DH has refused because of how every prior trip unfolded with the DW running to their middle-aged baby girl in a panic to resolve some crisis.

Clearly the DH in that picture is as much a cause as is the DW.  He never has put his foot down.  He just stands at the side shaking his head instead of confronting and resolving the issues at hand.


 


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