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Hi all! I'm so glad this exists because I had such a positive outcome from my one post on the Steptalk; everyone was so understanding and nonjudgemental. I hope the same for this. ![]()
Opening up about my SS (10, about to be 11) has been hard for me because I know he's just a kid. I feel guilty about my feelings towards him and it hasn't gotten any easier. I'll do my best to condense everything from the last two years, but this might be all over the place.
So, BM had been untreated for an undiagnosed mental illness and had custody up until Dec 2024. We suspect (as do our therapists) that she either had Bipolar Schizoaffective disorder, or BPD. For years she made allegations against my DH, so SS had all this conflicting and damaging information coming from BM and her family. I think it's also important to note, aside from going to school, SS didn't really interact with kids much and didn't have friends. He spent much of his time staying indoors, watching Youtube, playing video games, and hanging out with just BM and his maternal grandparents. BM doesn't have friends either, so they never went anywhere or did normal things like socialize. Once he moved in full time with us (2023 - after mom's mental health got really bad), I started to notice he's clearly been isolated and lacked socialization and struggled with emotional regulation. He cried over everything. And like, boo-hoo type of crying. More on this shortly...
My son (14 and on the spectrum) also struggled with emotional regulation, but his was expressed through defiance, stubbornness, and anger. He also struggles with social cues/reading emotions, and this can come off as being mean or inconsiderate. He's also sensory seeking, so he likes to interact physically with someone or just to move his body around. That could look like holding someone's hand, rough housing, running around, jumping, etc.
I constantly had (still do, but not as much as he's made a ton of progress in therapy) discussions with him about the importance of being aware of our words & actions, how we treat people, how to self reflect and take accountability, etc. and he'd been in therapy.
My SS got my son in-trouble a lot because he can't tell apart playful vs. intentional teasing, playful rough housing vs. physical abuse, if something happened while we weren't around/looking - he would immediately blame my son and since they both were struggling with emotional regulation - my DH would pick the "lesser evil" - the tears.
I try to remain objective when it comes to issues between my son and SS because I understand our situation is unique. I don't like to take sides, I like to mediate and make sure they both feel heard and work towards a solution. BUT I also recognize and am well aware that my son can be intentionally hurtful sometimes, but often times I know that's not the case. You know your kids, right? You know when they genuinely didn't mean to make someone cry or didn't mean for things to get out of hand.
My DH was seeing things as black and white: "my kid is crying, my SS is raging because of this, it's clearly the SS's fault." (A+B=C) He's gotten a lot better through MANY discussions, but I unfortunately still remember the times my son wasn't given the grace that SS often got/gets, so part of this is a little bit of lingering resentment on my part. My DH and in-laws have had a habit of coddling for fear of hurting his feelings and upsetting him.
So, what I've noticed is my SS can't stand up for himself, resorts to crying whenever he needs an out, makes up stories that aren't true to avoid getting in-trouble, gives up easily, feels victimized and blames others instead of self reflecting, people pleases and then gets upset later because he actually didn't want to, acts helpless to avoid accountability or because he'd rather someone else do something for him, etc. Some of this is also behavior he observed his mom doing so he's just doing what's learned and observed. His therapist has noticed these things as well. She says because he's been severely neglected, he's basically an empty vessel and is only just now learning things he should've been learning his whole life.
On top of this, he severely lacks common sense. He'll ask questions like, "Where do I put my plate?" after washing it, "The big spoon I need for the rice is in with the beans, what should I do?", or "I replaced the toilet paper but don't know what to do with the roll. What should I do with it?", but he's very academically intelligent.
He admitted to me the other day that he knows he has skills he learned from his therapist and his teachers at school, but he chooses not to.
He joined our pretty intense karate class only because he didn't want to be left out (previously quit because it was too tough and he doesn't like physical contact sports), and recently got punched in the stomach a little harder than normal and BOOHOO'D the WHOLE night. I sincerely tried to help in different ways and he ended up telling me he didn't like what I had to say, and at first I was like "Wow. Ok then." but then I heard him say that about everyone who tried to help him including his dad, and I didn't feel as bummed about it.
All this to say, I'm annoyed by his presence. I've tried to "fake it til you make it" but it seems like a terrible mindset because this is a CHILD but I don't have it in me you guys. I can't fake it and I can't deal with this perceived helplessness. When he cries over something, I don't feel bad. For example: When my kid is clearly joking around with him like he does with me, his friends, his cousins, he says "Can you tell him to stop? He's hurting my feelings and being mean." when he hasn't done a single thing to try to work through this himself. This drives me crazy because I see SS's friends interact with him the same way my son does and he just goes along with it, just as happy as ever, and doesn't say anything about it later. Or sometimes he does, and I just ask, "Well, did you try to [x, y, z]?" and he'll say no. Ya'll, I don't feel bad for someone like that. And again, I know he's young but if you're constantly crying and complaining about things and doing nothing about it and just blaming others instead of actively working towards conflict resolution and advocating for yourself, OR if you're not seeking out guidance from others on how to work through things (because he'll ask for help in any other non-people related situations), I just can't fake the sympathy or empathy but I try REALLY hard.
I find myself avoiding being around him whenever I can and limit my interactions with him, and just let DH handle most things as he's gotten better at not coddling him so much and seeing through the manipulative behavior (strong word, but couldn't think of another word). I say this because prior times, I would try to step in or we'd just get into arguments because I thought he was baby-ing him too much instead of being realistic about situations which I felt would better his mind grow to be more open to perspectives so he wouldn't get stuck in a pity party.
It's honestly a back and forth thing for me. Sometimes, I jump at the opportunity to offer him guidance because I feel he can benefit from a smig of tough love and I just hope one day he recognizes that I'm not "being mean", I'm just parenting him like I do my own son. I'm realistic, state the facts, offer validation, and provide different perspectives to help create a mind that is open to seeing the grey of the world. He doesn't like it because it's not what he wants to hear, and I will never sugarcoat sh!t to him. He knows that and has admitted he'd rather me sugarcoat and lie to him.
This world is going to eat him up alive if he continues down this "Poor me" path and I don't want that for him!!!
What would you guys recommend? Any books? Podcasts? Any general advice is greatly appreciated.
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I think it's often easier to sympathise with tears than with rage, but what struck me most was the ages of the two boys involved. (Are there other kids as well?) Your SS is 10 and your son is 14 - that's a big gap at this age. My own two bio daughters were 2 yrs apart and the elder used to bully the younger sometimes, I never knew what to do - as if I stepped in to protect the younger it didn't help. I think the only thing I would suggest is that you both allow the other to vent about the boys, and acknowledge each other's feelings, but then try to get on the same page - ie "how can we help this situation?" I know if my DH ever complains about my bios behaviour I try to acknowledge and even agree, and not automatically step in to defend my bios.
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Honestly.. your SS is still fairly young.. only 10, his ability to control his emotions is obviously going to be more difficult for him.
Also, while I know it's tempting to try to diagnose others.. like his mother and him.. all I will say there is being a difficult EX.. and not being super social is not in and of itself indicative of having an actual mental illness.. I mean.. I'm not particularly social.. don't have any number of close friends.. but am perfectly happy to spend my time with my husband and socialize superficially. I wouldn't say it's due to any particular syndrome or condition.. I'm just more introverted.
Now, to your SS.. he seems sensitive.. and perhaps introverted like his mother. And.. your son is much older.. so I would expect expectations for his behavior should be much higher than for a child 4 years younger. Your son has his own issues he is dealing with.. but you and your husband need to be careful and have good oversight that your son is not bullying his younger stepsibling.. even if he doesnt' "mean to be mean" the resulting impact on the younger child can be real and he shouldn't necessarily have to just suck it up.
But... your personal concern should be your own son.. his behavior.. how he is developing as your child and becoming a teen and a young adult.
You don't have to love your stepson.. but for the sake of your sanity.. your relationship with your partner.. you do need to make as much of an attempt to fake it till you make it.. because as a young child in the home.. he deserves to feel included in the family.
BUT.. his visitation is for him and his father.. so encourage your husband to step up and parent him.. entertain him when he is over.. it's not your job .. and it sounds like you have your own son to manage.. so don't feel bad that you can't and don't want to spend as much effort with your partner's child.
What you should do with regards to your ss is be kind and support your partner in being a parent and ensure you own child is not causing your SS grief.
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Not sure how replying works..lol
@ESMOD Thanks for taking the time to read my post and reply! I totally agree with your point about temptation to diagnose others; being introverted (I am too!) and having a debilitating mental illness are vastly different though. Yes, 100% she has been difficult, but her mental health has a big influence on that. She's had several delusions and bouts of paranoia over the last 5-6 years. She told SS that she believed my DH is a hologram and has powers that take over minds and bodies, she thinks we broke into her house and ruined her painting and stole her backpack, her boyfriend a couple years ago called mobile crisis on her and she was hospitalized for a week for psychosis, she has shown up to our house randomly several times speaking in disorganized speech.. and that's just to name a few.. and that's why she lost custody :/ She also hasn't had a job in over a decade and I believe part of that is, the struggle to re-integrate into society after so much self isolation and condition of mental health. To her credit, she says she has been in therapy, and she hasn't been a "problem" in about a year, so hopefully things keep getting better.
Your point about my son.. he is developmentally behind by 2-3 years but physiologically operating as a raging 14 year old. It's been interesting and frustrating to navigate, but we're getting there! I regularly have to keep my own son in check because he can indeed take it too far, and that's fine but if there's no reciprocity and my son is the only one being guided on how to behave/react.. then that's when it gets frustrating. You know what I mean?
And the home is a safe space, right? You support, encourage, validate, comfort, nurture.. all the things. It's also where you have to provide a humbling reality check to prepare your kiddos for the real world and how to handle difficult people and situations (i.e. my son sometimes) - a balance! And that's where I feel there's been a disconnect because that's not always the case with SS. And I think it's because we've been over-accommodating due to his highly sensitive nature.
"the resulting impact on the younger child can be real and he shouldn't necessarily have to just suck it up." - Completely agree he doesn't have to suck it up every time however, (and this is solely my opinion, not researched based or anything lol), a developing child needs that knowledge and experience of understanding that there will be/are times you do just have to acknowledge what happened, feel the feels, and let it go and move on.
I think there can be a balance between validation and comfort, and also providing a realistic perspective because what's happened here, there's been over-accommodation and now he doesn't know how to navigate conflict resolution or how to self-advocate. And yes, definitely aware he is only 10 but when I start to see the interactions with other 10 year olds.. there's clearly a missing piece there and you can see the disservice in his development from all us, myself included. I know how that sounds :/ "you shouldn't compare them to other kids" but it would be weird if I didn't.
Idk. I could just let sh!t be and not think about it too much, and just let these things work themselves out but he lives with us full time lol.
Also, my DH and I have had talks about all of this and we've done really well recently on hearing each other out, and working towards a balance. He no doubt has his own frustrations with my kid!!![]()
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There is something to recommend the "Stop your crying or I will give you something to cry about!" proven effective method of dealing with a manipulative crier.
Isolating the ill behaved manipulative crier is also a great tool. It removes them from the rest of the family giving the family break from the manipulative tears. It also immediately applies a misery inducing consequence. Particulatly when it includes a firmly led march to an isolated corner where the manipulative crier's nose is planted to hold the two walls together and.......This site does NOT condone anyone advocating physical punishment.
Even better, when the isolated corner is where the manipulative crier can hear everyone else enjoying themselves while they have to stand there with zero enjoyable stimulus.
When it comes to the bioparent who refuses to effectively deal with their ill-behaved failed family progeny, a clear message that "If you do not deal with this behavior effectively then I will and you will have my back while I do it. If you do not like how I discipline and parent, then step up and get it done before I have to."
I am of the mind that in these situations do something. Whether you do it wrong. If what you do to address the issue is not effective, the adjust and reapply until you find the magic sauce sweet spot to motivate the desired behavioral change.
Boundaries, standards of behavior, standards of performance, structure, and consistency work. Adapt and address the issue at hand.
Yes, a definite and likely oversimplification of often complex issues. Behaviors are a choice. Choices have outcomes. Applying the proper result to the outcome often works.
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