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First, hi!
Second, make sure you're sitting down before you read this.
All set?
It was one of the best weddings I've ever been to including my own.
And BM?
I decided early on to kind of be nice to her because I knew she had no one from her side coming so she'd be alone. I put myself in her shoes and said "fark it, I'm being nice". And my Mr? He did the same. Weird? yes but worth it big YES. At the set up the day before we tippy toed with kindness. Just little things like saying hi and being friendly. Then at the rehearsal we walked down the aisle right behind SS escorting her. I took the third seat so my Mr and BM got the best views of their son's vows. And at the rehearsal dinner she came to us and asked if she could sit with us.
Wedding day we got to the venue early so my Mr could do the Dad of the Groom stuff. She arrived after we did so I called her into the are the bride and her crew were in.
Shockingly, it went really really well and you could see the tension leave SS's body when he realized we were making sure she wasn't standing too alone. Even the Mr's family, her ex-in-laws were polite and kind to her.
Will we be getting together for fondue parties and wine tastings? no. Do I hate her, still no. But most importantly, my Mr realized the fire of hatred he had been keeping stoked has gone out. We won't be friends but we aren't enemies any more and that I think was the best wedding gift we could have given SS.
I know my story is an oddity but for us it worked out the way it should.
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Yay!!! Everyone took the high road so the wedding was drama free. That IS a great gift! So nice to read this. ![]()
SS23 recently proposed to his gf and BioHo is already creating drama. SD32 is hoping that SS23 will see the light and NOT invite their nightmare of a mother.
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What an absolutely brilliant update! I am happy for all involved. You made everyone's day that bit more special. I bet everyone will remember that wedding!
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AgedOut wrote:
First, hi!
Second, make sure you're sitting down before you read this.
All set?
It was one of the best weddings I've ever been to including my own.
And BM?
I decided early on to kind of be nice to her because I knew she had no one from her side coming so she'd be alone. I put myself in her shoes and said "fark it, I'm being nice". And my Mr? He did the same. Weird? yes but worth it big YES. At the set up the day before we tippy toed with kindness. Just little things like saying hi and being friendly. Then at the rehearsal we walked down the aisle right behind SS escorting her. I took the third seat so my Mr and BM got the best views of their son's vows. And at the rehearsal dinner she came to us and asked if she could sit with us.
Wedding day we got to the venue early so my Mr could do the Dad of the Groom stuff. She arrived after we did so I called her into the are the bride and her crew were in.
Shockingly, it went really really well and you could see the tension leave SS's body when he realized we were making sure she wasn't standing too alone. Even the Mr's family, her ex-in-laws were polite and kind to her.
Will we be getting together for fondue parties and wine tastings? no. Do I hate her, still no. But most importantly, my Mr realized the fire of hatred he had been keeping stoked has gone out. We won't be friends but we aren't enemies any more and that I think was the best wedding gift we could have given SS.
I know my story is an oddity but for us it worked out the way it should.
I'm so happy for SS and his bride that their wedding was drama free. The kindness you and DH showed to BM was a kindness that returned benefits. SS saw it and he was calmed by it.
That said, past behavior being the most accurate indicator of future performance, do not overly invest in expectations of reasonableness from BM going forward. Odds of that, are slim and none at best.
These types are who they are and most frequently never evolve beyond that.
At least that is the case in my experience.
My DW would take any element of other than unreasonable and toxic behavior from the opposition as them having changed. That she tolerated zero from them for months or years drove them to keep a lid on their usual stuff. BM being an empath and the kindest person I have ever known would disconnect their not repeating their usual manipulative toxicity from the reality that her heel on their throats made that happen. When she would lift her heel, they would immediately revert to their usual historic behavior. It broke her heart every time it happened, yet she continued to cycle between heel to their throats and kind trust that they had changed.
After a few of these 1-2 year cycles, she finally retained clarity of what reality was and never again gave them an opportunity to relapse into their historic toxic manipulative attacking behavior. We were all much happier when DW gained that clarity.
Except for the opposition of course. But then again, who cares about them? Certainly not me.
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Aniki-Moderator wrote:
Yay!!! Everyone took the high road so the wedding was drama free. That IS a great gift! So nice to read this.
SS23 recently proposed to his gf and BioHo is already creating drama. SD32 is hoping that SS23 will see the light and NOT invite their nightmare of a mother.
On this, SD-32 is wise. Hopefully, SS-22 will listen to his big sister.
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AgedOut wrote:
First, hi!
Second, make sure you're sitting down before you read this.
All set?
It was one of the best weddings I've ever been to including my own.
And BM?
I decided early on to kind of be nice to her because I knew she had no one from her side coming so she'd be alone. I put myself in her shoes and said "fark it, I'm being nice". And my Mr? He did the same. Weird? yes but worth it big YES. At the set up the day before we tippy toed with kindness. Just little things like saying hi and being friendly. Then at the rehearsal we walked down the aisle right behind SS escorting her. I took the third seat so my Mr and BM got the best views of their son's vows. And at the rehearsal dinner she came to us and asked if she could sit with us.
Wedding day we got to the venue early so my Mr could do the Dad of the Groom stuff. She arrived after we did so I called her into the are the bride and her crew were in.
Shockingly, it went really really well and you could see the tension leave SS's body when he realized we were making sure she wasn't standing too alone. Even the Mr's family, her ex-in-laws were polite and kind to her.
Will we be getting together for fondue parties and wine tastings? no. Do I hate her, still no. But most importantly, my Mr realized the fire of hatred he had been keeping stoked has gone out. We won't be friends but we aren't enemies any more and that I think was the best wedding gift we could have given SS.
I know my story is an oddity but for us it worked out the way it should.
I'm so happy for SS and his bride that their wedding was drama free. The kindness you and DH showed to BM was a kindness that returned benefits. SS saw it and he was calmed by it.
That said, past behavior being the most accurate indicator of future performance, do not overly invest in expectations of reasonableness from BM going forward. Odds of that, are slim and none at best.
These types are who they are and most frequently never evolve beyond that.
At least that is the case in my experience.
My DW would take any element of other than unreasonable and toxic behavior from the opposition as them having changed. That she tolerated zero from them for months or years drove them to keep a lid on their usual stuff. BM being an empath and the kindest person I have ever known would disconnect their not repeating their usual manipulative toxicity from the reality that her heel on their throats made that happen. When she would lift her heel, they would immediately revert to their usual historic behavior. It broke her heart every time it happened, yet she continued to cycle between heel to their throats and kind trust that they had changed.
After a few of these 1-2 year cycles, she finally retained clarity of what reality was and never again gave them an opportunity to relapse into their historic toxic manipulative attacking behavior. We were all much happier when DW gained that clarity.
Except for the opposition of course. But then again, who cares about them? Certainly not me.
I don't know if she changed but that's a her issue not an us issue. We don't "like" her but we do tolerate her and since we will be sharing grandchildren it beat the hell out of us carrying the baggage of the past.
Even my two sons & their wives said it was just a really great wedding. I'm okay with being a part of that!!
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AgedOut -
It is absolutely a her issue. You and DH did what good people and good parents do. You gave your son (SS) what he needed and provided calm for his big day.
When the GKs show up, even more of how exceptional you and DH are will surface. Get ready for that. When those babies gravitate toward you and DH, BM may let the claws out.
My parents are that for their sons (3 - 2 surviving), GKs (4), and GGK (1). Interestingly, my parents' home is considered home by everyone. Everyone engages mom and dad in their lives, and mom and dad and their home are everyone's safe harbor.
That is true for my wife. That is true for our son, my brother and his kids, and even their spouses. Only my brother's DW is the exception but even she has learned to appreciate our parents in the 32 years they have been married.
While my wife is moderately close to her family, and I have a relationship with them, our son is not comfortable with them. My SIL (my brother's DW) and her mother are like throwing gasoline on a fire when they get together. My brother's kidults will visit her and her DH of 40+ years but the relationships are perfunctory at best. My SIL and her SM (her dad passed a few years after she and my brother married) have a far less volatile relationship that she has with her BM, but that relationship is also perfunctory at best.
It is interesting that my son (SS-33) who is extremely empathetic has a major issue with both of his aunt's mothers (BM and & SM) over how they treat his aunt.
My extended family includes a number of blends. My SIL's parents divorced when she was 2yo and her elder siter was 4yo. They both remarried and have or have had long marriages with their replacement spouses. So SIL had both an SM and a SF. My wife's biodad/MIL's first husband was killed in a car accident at the time MIL was figuring out that she was pregnant with my DW. MIL and FIL *her StepDad) married when DW was 2mos old. FIL raised her as his own. Then there are DW and I.
Until this minute I have never looked at my extended family from this perspective. I am the only one in my family to have a divorce under my belt and a replacement spouse. Except for my granddad (Dad's dad).
That is an eye-opening realization.![]()
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Good for you! We took the high road, too, at SD's wedding (I got up and dragged DH with me to BM's table at the rehearsal dinner--it was only her and her father sitting there, and she was trying to get SS to join them, which he eventually did). I chatted up BM during the whole dinner.
But we were still treated like
. Mid-way through the reception, though, we had enough and took off.
So glad this worked out for you all!
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